Committee Meeting 2024-07-04 18:00 UTC

The meeting will take place at 18:00 UTC at https://meet.jit.si/cacert If you do not have audio channel, you may try in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee members: the committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.

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Agenda

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  1. Preliminaries one
    1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
    2. Who is making minutes?

    3. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist or Threema chat or Telegram group includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

    4. <!> Accept minutes from 4. April 2024 <!> "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 4th of April 2024."

    5. <!> Accept minutes from 16. May 2024 <!> "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 16th of May 2024."

    6. <!> Accept minutes from 6. Juni 2024 <!> "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 6th of June 2024."

    7. Agree on the 8th of August 2024 as date for the next committee meeting. (Following dates probably 5. Sept 2024, 3. Oct 2024, 7. Nov 2024 18:00 UTC)

  2. Business
    1. Decisions

    2. Background Check

      1. done

        1. {i} BGC for Brian is done. Report received by the secretary.

        2. {i} BGC for Gero: Interview happened (by Ted&Etienne), committee is waiting for the report (has to be sent by Gero).

      2. pipeline (list to review, complete, slow down or speed up) (will we start new ones? who? done by who?)

        1. {i} BGC for Peter is initiated. (date searching; Interview by Ted&Egal)

        2. {i} BGC for Matthias are initiated. (date searching started in August 2022)

        3. {i} BGC for Sascha are initiated. (language: en or de)

    3. Events
      FrOSCon 2024 (Organisation: Dirk, Content: Brian)

    4. {i} e-Mail 3
      issue: implement new addtional standards
      who: Kim, JanDD
      done: analysis
      next step: implement SPF, followed by DKIM/DMARC; steps SRS/validation after SGM
      what help needed: Until more people show up to do the actual work, Jan does not see that step 5 (validation) will happen. There is no way this will happen in short term.

    5. OpenID
      issue: alpha or beta version available
      who: Brian, +?
      what help needed:
      next step: glue together
      FrOSCon 2024

    6. CiviCRM
      issue: install, following plan
      who: Frédéric G
      what help needed: Brian looks for a way outside critical
      next step: Frédéric will install/introduce it for accounting and members list

    7. {i} Big Mail
      issue: review and sending
      who: Etienne, Dirk
      what help needed: none
      done: text finished; provereading
      next step: sending)

    8. Affiliate
      {i} The booking.com affiliate account is now connected to Swiss bank account. If you book your trips via the button on our site, we receive a few dozen euros.

    9. Paypal

      1. {i} issue: get the money (ClawbackAction)
        who: Frédéric G, Etienne, +?
        On May 3rd, PP announced after 300 days, that our funds will sent to our bank account within 2-3 days.
        On May 6th the funds arrived in Switzerland at the bank account.
        The treasurer did not close all Singapore based PP accounts at the moment, as there is still a complaint and we hope to get some money as we did in 2020 in Australia.

      2. {i} issue: Paypal Australia blocked the Australian account on xx-05-2024.
        next steps: (info Australia at the meeting)
        who:

      3. {i} Blog updated with Conotexia-links (not only the QR codes)

    10. Class 1 / Class 3
      issue: change the policy
      who: Kim, +?
      what help needed:
      next step: submit proposals or drafts for discussion at Policy group

    11. SGM Future (by FG)
      issue: maybe dissolution of the association?
      Last step: Pro and con discussed at SGM meeting on May 16th 2024
      Next steps: Waiting for discussion on PolG
      information by secretary
      Fix a date
      see table in the annexe for details
      please see not only the limit (Fix Date) but also the reality (When done?) as always a volunteer has to do it in time
      Who: Frédéric G. and Secretary
      Annexe: Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2024-06-06/SGM

  3. on hold (for later this year)
    1. Infrastructure: (Dirk)

      1. Start thinking about planning when to do things about new roots, so we are prepared several years in advance, as no certs should have a end-date after any root certificates. Also take a look at the old Escrow article. https://wiki.cacert.org/Roots/EscrowAndRecovery

      1. How is it going with implementing LetsEncrypt certificates on public facing services, instead of keeping them behind CAcert's "unknown" certificates?

    2. Remote Assurance (Brian)

      1. {i} Creation of remote assurance sub committee (RASC) on the hold until Eva is available for the policy. Secretary got in touch with Eva on Oct. 12.
        "Users Requests, summarized." added by Aleš a) need for a distant assurance (no assurers, no TTP possibility in their country); b) need for the write access to our Wiki.

    3. Any other business (board members forgot to ask the secretary to put it on the agenda)
    4. What's coming next? ???
  4. Question Time

    Questions from CAcert.org community members can be added until beginning of committee meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added question here.

    1. "Question One." added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by your Question and add your name

1. Closing

  1. To remember: Goals 2021/2022 (propositions by board 2020/2021) - Each goal needs a responsible person on the board who keeps an eye on it and reports regularly, keeps in touch with the responsible people. {X} obsolete / (./) started / {OK} waiting for available time

    • push OrgA (Guy)
    • expand PR (Alex cannot do this, wants to hand over)

    • (./) delivering the OpenID Connect integration, for which CAcert is funded by the RIPE NCC.

    • (./) expand background check

    • {OK} remote assurance, if accepted by the community;

    • (./) simplify the certificate creation (this enables the start of various projects from the pipeline)

    • software development and testing

    • (./) New CSR software

    • {X} support SecureU (find an active board member for them in Germany)

  2. Not to forget: Staffing the teams
    1. Applicants to the Infrastructure team
    2. Applicants to the Development team
    3. Applicant to the Critical team

  1. Access to local systems for board members

Person

Board-Private

Committee Archive

Wiki

Nextcloud

Brian

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Etienne

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Admin

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FrédéricD

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Admin

FrédéricG

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Kim

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Michael

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Wacław

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Aleš

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1. Tasks assigned to Board Members and others

Person

Task

Deadline

Other People Involved

Notes

Brian

Contact QA/QC Volunteers

10 January 2022

Gero Treuner, Peter Nunn, others?

To begin work, they do not need ABC.

Brian

bla

2022

xxx

xx.

Brian

bla

2022

xxx

xx.

  1. Software Team

    1. Issue 1502: Adapt the UI at CAcert.org to deal with the "keygen" feature having been removed in browsers (Some of this will be met with 1551 )

    2. Issue 1482: Limit validity period of new HTTPS certificates to one year

    3. Issue 1444: PHP - Brian

    4. Issue 1417: Keygen / new CSR software - Bernhard

  2. Organisation Assurance
    1. How to relance OrgA? (Guy)
  3. Grant applications

    1. Protopype Fund https://prototypefund.de/en/ (mail to SW Board only)

      1. The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF). This is for residents of Germany only. We could create a group of people that work on a project for CAcert (with all support of the others in the background). It runs for two more years, every 6 month.
      2. Infra does not see any acute need at the moment, and does not have the capacity to provide qualified support.
      3. There are some ideas for software, but in infra's view there is still a lot of conceptual and preparatory work missing. What Infra could imagine is financing people to carry out a requirements analysis and write a requirements and test specification. This could then be used as a basis for a new implementation of the CAcert software (WebDB, Signer and perhaps other things like CATS). But these are just a few ideas of JanDD and he cannot currently recommend any people who would be suitable for this. Potential candidates would have to deal intensively with the existing software on the one hand and with the underlying policies on the other, and would have to identify a lot of missing information, ask for it and make assumptions for discussion. This requires very good analytical and communication skills and a high level of stamina.
  1. Blockchain

    1. see here: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas#Blockchain (waiting for answer from IanG)

Minutes Committee meeting - 2024-07-04

Present, by alphabetical order:

Frédéric Dumas, Aleš Kastner, Brian McCullough, Étienne Ruedin

Absent or silent, by alphabetical order

Frédéric Grither,

Kim Nilsson

Members of the CAcert community and other guests

Dirk Astrath

1 Opening

Chair Brian McCullough opens the meeting at 18:10 UTC.

Minutes April 4, 2024

The following amendment to point 7 was made: "7. Special General Meeting Frédéric D presented a draft of the plan. Étienne asked for a written description of the points in favour of keeping CAcert in business and the points in favour of closing the association, so that members could understand the ins and outs". Acceptance of the minutes in this corrected version.

Result of the vote:

Aye: 4 Naye: 0 Abstain: 0

The minutes were accepted.

Minutes May 16, 2024

Result of the vote:

Aye: 3 Naye: 0 Abstain: 1

The minutes were accepted.

Minutes June 6, 2024

Etienne asked a point of order. It was accepted and the discussion interrupted.

Aye: 2

Naye: 0

Abstain: 1

Acceptance of the minutes was adjourned.

2 Business

  1. Background Check
    Skiped, as already voted last meeting.

  2. Events
    Egal is organising FrOSCon 2024, with at least 3 people present. They will present OenIDconnect.

  3. e-Mail 3
    Until more people show up to do the actual work, Jan does not see that step 5 (validation) will happen. There is no way this will happen in short term.

  4. OpenID
    Brian and Dirk are working on it with Drupal and WordPress. It will be presented at FrOSCon 2024.

  5. CiviCRM
    Frédéric G did not get in touch with Brian until now.

  6. Big Mail
    The text is reviewed. Next step: sending.

  7. Affiliate
    {i} The booking.com affiliate account is now connected to Swiss bank account. If you book your trips via the button on our site, we receive a few dozen euros.

  8. Paypal
    Blog updated with Conotoxia-links (not only the QR codes).

  9. Class 1 / Class 3
    Kim will submit proposals or drafts for discussion at Policy group.

  10. SGM Future

Date of CAcert's Annual General Meeting

Dirk is considering calling the next AGM in September. Frédéric objects that it should be held in November, as in previous years, so as not to artificially shorten the terms of office of committee members. Brian has no objection to the AGM being held in January 2025. Dirk objects that the date should not extend beyond the end of the calendar year. Étienne presents a list of dates on which AGMs have been held in the past, and notes that some have been held in November and even December. The secretary is asked to collect the opinions including the absent members on the board private mailing list concerning the proposed date 28. Sept. 2024 18:00 UTC.

3 Question Time

Aleš explains that a new version of the CPS that he has been working on is currently being reviewed by Dirk and Jan.

Closing

Chair Brian closes the meeting at 19:40 UTC.

Date of the next meeting: The next meeting will be held on Thursday August 8, 2024 at 18:00 UTC

Motions

Actions

Who

Status

Action

Minutemaker

wip

prepare Agenda and Minutes for the next meeting

Brian

Software meeting

every 2 month

Secretary

bank

accounts, contact with treasurer

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