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Committee Meeting 2025-04-03 18:00 UTC

The meeting will take place at 18:00 UTC at https://meet.jit.si/cacert If you do not have audio channel, you may try in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee members: the committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.

Agenda

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1. Preliminaries
   1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting

   2. Who Secretary is making minutes ?

   3. Accept minutes from 6. March. 2025 "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 6th of March 2025."

   4. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist or Threema chat or Telegram group includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

   5. Agree on the 8th of May 2025, 19:00 UTC as date for the next committee meeting. (Following dates probably, 5th of June, 3rd of July 2025)

2. Business

   1. Association (Secretary)

      1. Acceptance of new members (details for privacy reason by mail to board members) "I accept Alex R. as a member of CAcert Inc (association)." "I accept Nicolas N. as a member of CAcert Inc (association)."

   2. OpenID Connect (Brian, Dirk, S.T.)

      1. Last steps: by ? (lead) and ? (help) until ?
      2. Documentation: by ? (lead) and ? (help) until ?

   3. CAcert in Spain (Etienne)

      1. Draft as e-mail from 15.03.2025 16:24 and 16:31
      2. Next steps

   4. OrgA (Alex, Etienne)

      1. OrgA Conference 2025
      2. Next steps

   5. Communication

      1. OpenID @wiki & @blog (who shares infos with secretary)?

      2. (Let's Encrypt @wiki & @blog is on hold until OIDC is running) ad & @WoT to wiki&blog? (Aleš)

      3. CPS (intro draft sent to A/D/J/K)

   6. CAcert Youth Projects (2.5 in December 2024) -- First round: looking for german scouts, waitng for answers; ev. next steps?

   7. Any other business (board members forgot to ask the secretary to put it on the agenda)

3. Question Time

   Questions from CAcert.org community members can be added until beginning of committee meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added question here.

   1. "Question One." added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by your Question and add your name

1. Closing

1. on hold (for later this year)
   1. Infrastructure: (Dirk)

      1. Start thinking about planning when to do things about new roots, so we are prepared several years in advance, as no certs should have a end-date after any root certificates. Also take a look at the old Escrow article. https://wiki.cacert.org/Roots/EscrowAndRecovery

   2. Remote Assurance (Brian)

      1. Creation of remote assurance sub committee (RASC) on the hold until Eva is available for the policy. Secretary got in touch with Eva on Oct. 12.
         "Users Requests, summarized." added by Aleš a) need for a distant assurance (no assurers, no TTP possibility in their country); b) need for the write access to our Wiki.

1. To remember: Goals 2021/2022 (propositions by board 2020/2021) - Each goal needs a responsible person on the board who keeps an eye on it and reports regularly, keeps in touch with the responsible people. obsolete / started / waiting for available time

   • push OrgA (Guy)
   • expand PR (Alex cannot do this, wants to hand over)

   • delivering the OpenID Connect integration, for which CAcert is funded by the RIPE NCC.

   • expand background check

   • remote assurance, if accepted by the community;

   • simplify the certificate creation (this enables the start of various projects from the pipeline)

   • software development and testing

   • New CSR software

   • support SecureU (find an active board member for them in Germany)

2. Not to forget: Staffing the teams
   1. Applicants to the Infrastructure team
   2. Applicants to the Development team
   3. Applicant to the Critical team

1. Access to local systems for board members

1. Tasks assigned to Board Members and others

1. Software Team

   1. Issue 1502: Adapt the UI at CAcert.org to deal with the "keygen" feature having been removed in browsers (Some of this will be met with 1551 )

   2. Issue 1482: Limit validity period of new HTTPS certificates to one year

   3. Issue 1444: PHP - Brian

   4. Issue 1417: Keygen / new CSR software - Bernhard

2. Organisation Assurance
   1. How to relance OrgA? (Guy)
3. Grant applications

   1. Protopype Fund https://prototypefund.de/en/ (mail to SW Board only)

      1. The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF). This is for residents of Germany only. We could create a group of people that work on a project for CAcert (with all support of the others in the background). It runs for two more years, every 6 month.
      2. Infra does not see any acute need at the moment, and does not have the capacity to provide qualified support.
      3. There are some ideas for software, but in infra's view there is still a lot of conceptual and preparatory work missing. What Infra could imagine is financing people to carry out a requirements analysis and write a requirements and test specification. This could then be used as a basis for a new implementation of the CAcert software (WebDB, Signer and perhaps other things like CATS). But these are just a few ideas of JanDD and he cannot currently recommend any people who would be suitable for this. Potential candidates would have to deal intensively with the existing software on the one hand and with the underlying policies on the other, and would have to identify a lot of missing information, ask for it and make assumptions for discussion. This requires very good analytical and communication skills and a high level of stamina.

1. Blockchain

   1. see here: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas#Blockchain (waiting for answer from IanG)

Minutes Committee meeting - 2025-04-03

Present, by alphabetical order: Aleš, Brian, Etienne, Dirk, Kim xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Opening

The secretary opens the Committee Meeting at 18:05. There are some corrections to the minutes: Events: LUGG Camp; 2.4.4 will discuss (not discussed); 2.1 connect; trying (typos). The minuts are accepted with this minor changes (m20250507.1). The committee agrees on the 8th of May 2025, 18:00 UTC as date for the next committee meeting. (Following dates probably 5th of June 2025)

Business

2.1. Two New members are accepted as members of the association. "I accept Alex and Nicolas (personal details as in the board mailing list) as a member of CAcert Inc (association)." (m20250507.2)

2.2. OpenID Connet: Brian started the doscumentation: What is in the tool, where it is to find and how to use it.

2.3. CAcert Spain: The committee agrees to continue the non offensive approach; another letter should be sent by the secretary.

2.4. OrgA: Etienne is in touch with Alex. More will follow.

2.5.2. Let's Encrypt @wiki & @blog: This will be discussed in May; for the WOT it is tehnically not possible, but no obstacle, as the WOT pages are for community members only.

Let's encrypt for public-facing sites (wiki and blog) has long been desired. It should be noted that these certificates must be replaced every 90 days. Automation is not trivial. JanDD has ideas, but OpenID Conect has priority. It will be looked at when OpenID Connect access is installed after FOSDEM. Dirk wants to report in more detail in March (possibly as early as the end of January?).

2.5.3. CPS: It should be written we intend instead of we will. The secretary will submit it to PolG.

2.6. Youth: Scouting/JOTI: The secretary is waiting for answer in German and later send the english version to the subscribers.

2.7. Hardware: OpenBSD update

2.8. Wednesday meetings: they will be held at 13:00 UTC / 15:00 CEST

2.9. There was a discussion if a specific e-mail is spam or not. The committee will not take action, if a member of it wants to do so, he can; but it is suggested to do that with an other e-mail address.

The president closes the meeting at the end of the meeting.

Motions

• https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20250130.1 (minutes january) Accepted by 3 aye (Aleš, Brian, Etienne), 1 abstain (Kim) as 7-day-motion.

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