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Committee Meeting 2023-07-06 18:00 UTC

The meeting will take place at 18:00 UTC at https://meet.jit.si/cacert If you do not have audio channel, you may try in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee members: the committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.

Agenda

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1. Preliminaries
   1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
      1. Chair has a question for the attending members
   2. Who is making minutes?

   3. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

   4. Accept minutes from 1. June 2023 "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 1st of June 2023."

2. Business

   Acceptance of new business items no later than 48 hours before the start of the committee meeting!

   1. New Client Certificate Creator available: JanDD recently implemented a web application to make it easier to get started with client certificates. The application provides a friendly and completely client side interface to generate key pairs and signing requests in your browser. Thank you very much!!

   2. Wiki update: Aleš is reviewing many wikipages, if needed he updates them and ads sometimes new translations (in collaboration with the secretary); to be continued in July.

   3. OpenID Connect (Brian/Frédéric D)

      1. State of affairs openID project

      2. Report for RIPE: Report has been sent by the secretary.

      3. Documentation (who?)

      4. Payment (secretary asked for IBAN and is waiting for it)

      5. PR (on hold: only if documentation is done)

         1. If progress is not as expected: What is needed for the project to be completed successfully? Who from the board can support?

   4. Remote Assurance (Brian)

      1. Creation of remote assurance sub committee (RASC) on the hold until Eva is available for the policy.

   5. Finance team (Michael)

      1. New ERP: Info: State of affairs (Frédéric D)

         1. If progress is not as expected: What is needed for the project to be completed successfully? Who from the board can support?

      2. Money transfer AU-EU: first transferts done; to be continued in July; access Westpac started, to be continued in July;

      3. Finance year 2022/23 ended on 30-06-2023.

   6. OrgAssurance

      1. Secretary tried to go in touch with G.S. on 2. and 16. Feb. - another try over the OrgA mailing list to all OrgA in May; still waiting for answer.

         1. As there is no answer: other ideas/names?
   7. Background Check
      1. done

         1. BGC for Gero: Interview happened (by Ted&Etienne), committee is waiting for the report (has to be sent by Gero).

      2. pipeline
         1. BGC for Brian: who (no board member in BGC team! Ted/Egal/JanDD?)

         2. BGC for Peter is initiated. (date searching; Interview by Ted&Egal)

         3. BGC for Matthias are initiated. (date searching started in August)

         4. BGC for Sascha are initiated. (language: en or de)

   8. Events

      1. Froscon

   9. Infrastructure
      1. Critical/Hardware (Dirk): visit at BIT on June 25 and other news.
   10. Any other business (board members forgot to ask the secretary to put it on the agenda)
   11. Kim emailed all Board members and asked them to join the very active Telegram channel, for faster communication between both Board members themselves, but mainly between active Team members and Board. Email communication is extremely slow, and we've had several occasions where some emails aren't received by all for unknown and unfixed reasons. Also, our very competent and active Team members are working much faster than the sluggish experience that comes with waiting for discussions and decisions made on the monthly Board meetings. Kim would appreciate a more active commitment to the Telegram channel.
   12. What coming next? ???
3. Question Time

   Questions from CAcert.org community members can be added until beginning of committee meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added question here.

   1. "Question One." added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by your Question and add your name

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1. Closing

1. Propose a date of the next Committee Meeting: 6. July 2023 18:00 UTC
2. Agree on the following meeting dates: 3. Aug., 7. Sept., 5. Oct. 2023 18:00 UTC (keep date free, can be changed if necessary)

1. To remember: Goals 2021/2022 (propositions by board 2020/2021) - Each goal needs a responsible person on the board who keeps an eye on it and reports regularly, keeps in touch with the responsible people. obsolete / started / waiting for available time

   • push OrgA (Guy)
   • expand PR (Alex cannot do this, wants to hand over)

   • delivering the OpenID Connect integration, for which CAcert is funded by the RIPE NCC.

   • expand background check

   • remote assurance, if accepted by the community;

   • simplify the certificate creation (this enables the start of various projects from the pipeline)
   • software development and testing
   • New CSR software

   • support SecureU (find an active board member for them in Germany)

2. Not to forget: Staffing the teams
   1. Applicants to the Infrastructure team
   2. Applicants to the Development team
   3. Applicant to the Critical team

1. Access to local systems for board members

1. Tasks assigned to Board Members and others

1. Software Team

   1. Issue 1502: Adapt the UI at CAcert.org to deal with the "keygen" feature having been removed in browsers

   2. Issue 1482: Limit validity period of new HTTPS certificates to one year

   3. Issue 1444: PHP - Brian

   4. Issue 1417: Keygen / new CSR software - Bernhard

2. Organisation Assurance
   1. How to relance OrgA? (Guy)
3. Grant applications

   1. Protopype Fund https://prototypefund.de/en/ (mail to SW Board only)

      1. The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF). This is for residents of Germany only. We could create a group of people that work on a project for CAcert (with all support of the others in the background). It runs for two more years, every 6 month.
      2. Infra does not see any acute need at the moment, and does not have the capacity to provide qualified support.
      3. There are some ideas for software, but in infra's view there is still a lot of conceptual and preparatory work missing. What Infra could imagine is financing people to carry out a requirements analysis and write a requirements and test specification. This could then be used as a basis for a new implementation of the CAcert software (WebDB, Signer and perhaps other things like CATS). But these are just a few ideas of JanDD and he cannot currently recommend any people who would be suitable for this. Potential candidates would have to deal intensively with the existing software on the one hand and with the underlying policies on the other, and would have to identify a lot of missing information, ask for it and make assumptions for discussion. This requires very good analytical and communication skills and a high level of stamina.

1. Blockchain

   1. see here: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas#Blockchain (waiting for answer from IanG)

Minutes Committee meeting - 2023-07-06

Participants

Members of the Committee:

Present, by alphabetical order

Brian McCullough

Étienne Ruedin

Frédéric Dumas

Kim Nilsson

Michael Richardson

Absent or silent, by alphabetical order

Frédéric Grither

Members of the CAcert community and other guests

Having been active during the meeting, by alphabetical order

Dirk Astrath

1 Opening

From April to October 2023 inclusive, committee meetings will be held at 18:00 UTC.

Brian, the chairman, opens the meeting at 18:07 UTC.

Kim motions for approval of the minutes of the previous meeting held on 1 June 2023.

Result of the vote:

Aye: 4 Naye: 0 Abstain: 0

The minutes were accepted.

2 Business

New Client Certificate Creator available The new process is working very well and we've started advertising it.

Wiki update Aleš is doing an outstanding job!

OpenID Connect (Brian / Frédéric D.) State of affairs - some progress, hoping to have something for Dirk to show at a tech fair in the near future. No substantial help from external people yet. Report - sent, so far no response from RIPE Payment - Not received bank info from Dirk and Jan until now. So no payment done yet. PR -

Remote Assurance (Brian / Étienne)

Skipped

Finance team (Michael / Étienne / Frédéric D.) New ERP - New install necessary, based on Debian 12 Money transfer AU-EU - still some issues making some transfer. Created a new PayPal address for EUR. (Paypal+swiss). The paypal+europe account was never correctly activated, and seems lost to us (but it has no money). Finance year 2022/23 ended - Michael can start working on reports. Secretary also working to make CAcert a taxfree organisations.

OrgAssurance

Secretary will try contact previously interested parties again.

Background Check

Brian, Dirk & Jan attempting to do a BGC for Brian shortly.

Events

Froscon - CAcert will have a stand. Would be great if Dirk could present something viable about OpenID Connect.

Infrastructure/Critical (Dirk)

Dirk found that serial connection between webdb and signer was broken. Dirk will go to Ede and replace those cables to get the signer back on. Also other hardware will be replaced to save a substantial amount of power.

Forgotten meeting items Frédéric Dumas asked Michael to send an elevator pitch for CAcert + IoT

Telegram Please, again Kim asks all board members to add themselves and frequent at least weekly.

3 Question Time

Frédéric Dumas stresses the need to organise the work of the teams, and to call on a change management professional, including on a paid basis, as soon as the coming mass mailing to be sent out by CAcert had brought a large number of new volunteers into the association. Brian points out that such a professional has recently been introduced to him and invites to discuss the matter again on the Board's private mailing list to remind him to get back in touch with this person.

Brian shares information about his new/current employment.

Dirk reminds secretary about the proclamation of moving CAcert from Australia to Switzerland

Closing

The Chairman, closes the meeting at 18:47 UTC.

Date of the next meeting

The next meeting will be held on Thursday August 3, 2023 at 18:00 UTC

Logfile

Logfile from meeting 2023-01-05

Motions

• https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20230706.1 (Minutes June)

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