Committee Meeting 2016-03-23

The meeting will take place at 19:00 UTC in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Committee Members: feel free to add a business within the acceptance period or your question to the board below. Others: add a question to the questions section.

Agenda

  1. Preliminaries
    1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting

    2. Accept the minutes from the last meeting.

    3. Who is making minutes?

    4. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

    5. Chair asks whether cacert-board maillist includes any business items that aren't on the agenda yet.

    6. Chair introduces the URL of action items to the meeting, and asks for discussion.

  2. Businesses

    Acceptance of Businesses 48 Hours before beginning of Committee Meeting latest!

    1. Discussion of the replies of Ian G to the hearing following the motion m20160228.3 "Move to enter the procedure following rule 12 of the statutes of CAcert Inc. to expell Ian G from CAcert Inc."

    2. Late business
      1. Discussion about the email from Etienne Ruedin, subject "Invitation: CAcert SGM, Saturday, 9th of April 2016 at 12:00h UTC".
      2. final statement that the former board refused up to today the handover of documents

    3. Business added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Business One" by Title of Business and add your Name

      • Additional Inputs Comment: Replace "Additional Inputs"by Description of Business, Description of Reason-Why/Purpose, Additional Comments, Additional Documents, Additional Links, if useful for other Committee Members to prepare for Committee Meeting.

    4. et cetera
  3. Question Time

    Questions from CAcert.org Community Members can be added until beginning of Committee Meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added Question here

    1. Question One added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by Your Question and add your Name

      • et cetera
  4. Closing
    1. Chair closes the Committee Meeting

Minutes

  1. Preliminaries

    • Attendees: Marcus Mängel, Reinhard Mutz, Stefan Thode, Felix Dörre

    • Chair opens the Committee Meeting 
      • 19:05 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> I hereby open the extraordinary board meeting
      • accept minutes 
        • 19:09 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> I move to accept the minutes
          Seconded by Stefan , Carried with 4 aye

          m20160323.1

      • Who is making minutes?
        • Marcus is taking the minutes
      • Chair asks whether cacert-board-private mailing list includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.
        • no items to disclosed

    • Chair asks whether cacert-board mailing list includes any business items that aren't on the agenda yet.

      • no items to be added

    • Chair introduces the URL of action items to the meeting, and asks for discussion.

      • nothing new
  2. Businesses
    1. Discussion of the replies of Ian G to the hearing following the motion m20160228.3 "Move to enter the procedure following rule 12 of the statutes of CAcert Inc. to expell Ian G from CAcert Inc."
      • Board asked if Ian G was present to give him the chance to response. 
        19:24 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> if Ian Grigg is present please change your name to your full name. Thank You.
19:28 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> Ian Grigg is not present.
19:28 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> Is this right?
19:28 #board-meeting: <@INOPIAE> I do not see his name
19:29 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> An invitation for this board meeting was sent to Ian on 2016-03-20 20:42 UTC
19:29 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> If he should participate in this meeting at any later time he will get the chance to speak personally.
        Reinhard laid out the reasons why Ian should be expelled as member of CAcert Inc. For details see the attached transscript. 
        20:50 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> If Ian Grigg is present on the floor please change your nick to your full name.
20:52 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> Ian Grigg is not present.
20:52 #board-meeting: <@felix> I don't see him either.
        • Board decided to vote to expell Ian G as member of CAcert 
        20:54 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> I move to expell Ian Grigg from membership of CAcert Incorporated.
        20:59 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> The motion system will give an enddate. After that date secretary has to write the result to all involved parties. In case of the motion is CARRIED Ian is to be informed. He has the right for appeal. Please see rule 13 of our statutes.
    2. Late business
      1. Discussion about the email from Etienne Ruedin, subject "Invitation: CAcert SGM, Saturday, 9th of April 2016 at 12:00h UTC". 
        21:03 #board-meeting: <@INOPIAE> There are a lot of failures, e.g. missing the formal requirements of 4 supporters who *must* sign the agenda and send it to secretary (No. 26 (3) d of the stautes). Further we have agreed by motion to hold this SGM on April 10th. We comply with our statutes and the regulation act where is said that we have to convene such a meeting within one month after such request.
21:05 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> In regards to all errors and failures board always has the chance to call a SGM. It is my wish to clarify the current situation as early as possible. But I cannot accept that these guys always argue that we persistently breach our rules and statutes. Just to remember: it is Ian Grigg who made the community to believe that CAcert Incorporated may deliberately ignore the Association Regulation Act 2010.
21:07 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> I propose to help etienne and others to get the SGM hold on April 10th as decided by board.
21:08 #board-meeting: <@INOPIAE> aye
21:08 #board-meeting: <@StefanT> second
21:08 #board-meeting: <@felix> aye
21:10 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> So secretary will send out the agenda in time.
      2. final statement that the former board refused up to today the handover of documents 
        21:11 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> 2.2.2 final statement that the former board refused up to today the handover of documents 
21:11 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> Dirk got the Key Persons List and refuses to hand it over to us. Remember his mail that he received this list on a private communication channel.
21:12 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> The only handover was done done by the former treasurer. For my best knowledge there are still a few procedures to clarify.
21:12 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> The task of handover of the Key Persons List is outstanding.
21:13 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> That is for the records.
      At 21:15 UTC some board members had to leave the meeting and the needed quorum was lost. 
      • 21:15 #board-meeting: <@reinhardM> we lost a quorum.
  3. Question Time
    • did not happen as the quorum was lost
  4. Date of next meeting
    • sunday 2016-04-10 10 UTC

transscript of the meeting

Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2016-03-23 (last edited 2016-04-09 07:24:56 by MarcusMängel)