Tverify Programme
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The Tverify programme is Terminated as of 16th November
The Tverify programme was shut down 16th November 2009 according to m20090928.1.
Ex-Thawte
According to m20090928.1, all Members who have come in via Tverify from Thawte will have a year to get assured by other means!
- All points that are allocated under the Tverify system are to expire
no later than 20101116. This is retrospective.
Effect
All the points allocated by the Tverify system will be struck off. This means that the Assurance Points (from 1 to 100) that were awarded by the system for previous experience will expire. Any Assurance Points allocated to you by any other Assurers within the WoT will remain, including ones done by Assurers with only Tverify points.
For example, if you came in through Tverify, and:
- if you have never been assured by CAcert's people, then you'll have 0 Assurance Points.
- if you have have been assured twice, 20 points each, then you'll have those 40 Assurance Points. The 100 points allocated before will be struck off. You will have to get another assurance to issue named certs, and a few more to get back to Assurer.
- if you have been assured many times, allocating in sum greater than 100 points, then you'll be fine. No change to your capabilities as Assurer.
FAQ
Q: What happens to the assurances done by people coming in via Tverify? Are they struck off too?
A: No, only the original allocation of 100 or 150 disappears. There are no "trickle" or "knock-on" effects. Any assurances done by you are accepted.
Q: Why is this happening? We did all this on good faith, it seems unfair!
A: Unfortunately, the Community has committed us to an audit path. The Tverify system was not auditable for several reasons, including that the auditor for the original system excluded their community web of trust. Yes, what was done was done in good faith, but that isn't sufficient for auditors. However, we've set a year as the timeframe for everyone to get new assurances.
Q: I was able to allow up to 35 points for each assurance I made, will I start back with the minimum 10 points ? Or continue with the ability to allow 35 points ??
A: All points earned from Tverify are struck off, so any experience benefit is also lost. So, you'll be back to however many your experience points are from Assurances done within CAcert's WoT, these will not be lost. If you've not done any assurances, then yes, you will be able to allocate 10 assurance points only. If you have done 25 assurances, then full 35 assurance points available.
Q: I know a lot of people in this situation, everyone is asking! What do I do?
A: Excellent! The best thing to do is to collect all these people together in an event, however you can manage it, and do lots of mutual assurances. For help in this, email to events@co.
Q: Is this the same as Thawte Notary programme? Why the change of name?
A: Yes. There are several reasons for using our own programme name. 1. the programme was designed for many CAs, not just one, and replacements will be as well. 2. There is no permission to use the name from the original owner, so we have to be very careful. In essence it is easier not to! 3. There are complications if we appear to be endorsing a commercial CA in some sense or other, it can create frictions and unease in the Community and with our relationships in the industry of CAs.
Q: How do I get assured when I am in a more remote area?
A: That's tougher. Because we are closing out the old, undocumented programmes, we've also stopped the TTP programme. There are replacements being designed but they are not available as yet. Your best chance is to plan ahead and try and meet up with Assurers as and when you travel. [2010-09-26] Update: TTP-Assisted-Assurance is now in Draft but the program is not yet running as this program needs further deployment. If you want to assist in the deployment process contact Assurance Officer or Organisation Assurance Officer to receive further details. In the meanwhile you can read the wiki documentation TTP
Q: Where are these replacements? How can I help?
A: Work on a replacement programme is happening Brain/Study/AuditNextSteps/Tverify and SVN wip. See also the old FAQ. To help, join the policy group maillist at cacert-policy and ask there.