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Committee Meeting 2023-04-13 18:00 UTC

The meeting will take place at 18:00 UTC at https://meet.jit.si/cacert If you do not have audio channel, you may try in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee members: the committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.

Agenda

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1. Preliminaries
   1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
      1. Chair has a question for the attending members
   2. Who is making minutes?

   3. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

   4. Accept minutes from 2. March 2023 "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 2nd of March 2023."

2. Business

   Acceptance of new business items no later than 48 hours before the start of the committee meeting!

   1. OpenID Connect (Brian/Frédéric D)

      1. State of affairs openID project
      2. Report for RIPE
      3. Documentation (who?)
      4. PR (maybe only if documentation is done?)

         1. If progress is not as expected: What is needed for the project to be completed successfully? Who from the board can support?

   2. Remote Assurance (Brian)

      1. Creation of remote assurance sub committee (RASC) on the hold until Eva is available for the policy.

   3. Finance team (Michael)

      1. New ERP: Info: State of affairs (Frédéric D)

         1. If progress is not as expected: What is needed for the project to be completed successfully? Who from the board can support?

      2. Money transfer AU-EU: Conotoxia account // Access Michael; collaboration Treasurer/Secretary

   4. Spring Offensive: All those who not need to finish ongoing work are hereby invited to participate in the Spring Offensive: Pick up just one of 72 small tasks that have been waiting to be completed for months or even years. Be one of 72 heroes who take a handhold and thus bring CAcert a big step forward! (How to deal with the bug tracker is described in simple words at https://wiki.cacert.org/Mantis-Crash-Course )

      1. 3 bugs that needs testing: https://bugs.cacert.org/view_all_bug_page.php?filter=64340f4170a5a

      2. 4 bugs that are ready to deploy: https://bugs.cacert.org/view_all_bug_page.php?filter=64340fee70281

      3. 17 bugs that needs just a review: https://bugs.cacert.org/view_all_bug_page.php?filter=64340fc57fc79

      4. 48 bugs that needs review and testing: https://bugs.cacert.org/view_all_bug_page.php?filter=64341014876b1

   5. OrgAssurance

      1. Secretary tried to go in touch with G.S. on 2. and 16. Feb. - waiting for answer.

         1. If no nor negative answer: other ideas/names?

   6. Background Check (Ted)

      1. done

         1. BGC for Gero: Interview happened (by Ted&Etienne), committee is waiting for the report (has to be sent by Gero).

         2. BGC for Kim: done (by Ted&Etienne), signed report received

      2. pipeline
         1. BGC for Brian: who (no board member in BGC team! Ted/Egal/JanDD?)

         2. BGC for Peter is initiated. (date searching; Interview by Ted&Egal)

         3. BGC for Matthias are initiated. (date searching started in August)

         4. BGC for Sascha are initiated. (language: en or de)

   7. Events

      1. FOSDEM Brussels (Dirk) https://fosdem.org/2023/

      2. Chemnitzer Linux-Tage (Dirk) https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de

   8. Infrastructure (Dirk): is something not running? until when? Consequences?
   9. Any other business (board members forgot to ask the secretary to put it on the agenda)
   10. What coming next? ???
3. Question Time

   Questions from CAcert.org community members can be added until beginning of committee meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added question here.

   1. "Question One." added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by your Question and add your name

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1. Closing

1. Propose a date of the next Committee Meeting: 4. Mai 2023 18:00 UTC
2. Agree on the following meeting dates: 1. June, 3. Aug., 7. Sept., 5. Oct. 2023 18:00 UTC(keep date free, can be changed if necessary)

1. To remember: Goals 2021/2022 (propositions by board 2020/2021) - Each goal needs a responsible person on the board who keeps an eye on it and reports regularly, keeps in touch with the responsible people. obsolete / started / waiting for available time

   • push OrgA (Guy)
   • expand PR (Alex cannot do this, wants to hand over)

   • delivering the OpenID Connect integration, for which CAcert is funded by the RIPE NCC.

   • expand background check

   • remote assurance, if accepted by the community;

   • simplify the certificate creation (this enables the start of various projects from the pipeline)
   • software development and testing
   • New CSR software

   • support SecureU (find an active board member for them in Germany)

2. Not to forget: Staffing the teams
   1. Applicants to the Infrastructure team
   2. Applicants to the Development team
   3. Applicant to the Critical team

1. Access to local systems for board members

1. Tasks assigned to Board Members and others

1. Software Team

   1. Issue 1502: Adapt the UI at CAcert.org to deal with the "keygen" feature having been removed in browsers

   2. Issue 1482: Limit validity period of new HTTPS certificates to one year

   3. Issue 1444: PHP - Brian

   4. Issue 1417: Keygen / new CSR software - Bernhard

2. Organisation Assurance
   1. How to relance OrgA? (Guy)
3. Grant applications

   1. Protopype Fund https://prototypefund.de/en/ (mail to SW Board only)

      1. The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF). This is for residents of Germany only. We could create a group of people that work on a project for CAcert (with all support of the others in the background). It runs for two more years, every 6 month.
      2. Infra does not see any acute need at the moment, and does not have the capacity to provide qualified support.
      3. There are some ideas for software, but in infra's view there is still a lot of conceptual and preparatory work missing. What Infra could imagine is financing people to carry out a requirements analysis and write a requirements and test specification. This could then be used as a basis for a new implementation of the CAcert software (WebDB, Signer and perhaps other things like CATS). But these are just a few ideas of JanDD and he cannot currently recommend any people who would be suitable for this. Potential candidates would have to deal intensively with the existing software on the one hand and with the underlying policies on the other, and would have to identify a lot of missing information, ask for it and make assumptions for discussion. This requires very good analytical and communication skills and a high level of stamina.

1. Blockchain

   1. see here: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas#Blockchain (waiting for answer from IanG)

Minutes Committee meeting - 2023-04-13

Participants

Members of the Committee

Present, by alphabetical order

Brian McCullough

Étienne Ruedin

Frédéric Dumas

Frédéric Grither

Kim Nilsson

Michael Richardson

Absent or silent, by alphabetical order

none

Members of the CAcert community and other guests

Having been active during the meeting, by alphabetical order

none

1 Opening

From April to October 2023 inclusive, committee meetings will be held at 18:00 UTC.

Chair Brian opens the meeting at 18:17 UTC.

Kim writes minutes. Frédéric D takes part too.

Approval of the minutes of the previous meeting.

Kim/Etienne moves to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 2nd of March 2023. Brian seconds.

Result of the vote:

Aye: 6 Naye: 0 Abstain: 0

The minutes were accepted.

Deleting accounts

In response to Brian's question as to whether any urgent issues had arisen on our communication channels, the current issue presented by Aleš on our Telegram discussion channel was mentioned.

Michael proposes the following motion: "The board recognizes that Aleš has the authority to disable and delete accounts for users that have requested this. The board has delegated this authority to Aleš. If there are mechanisms that would make the process smoother and less error prone, the board encourages this work to be done."

Brian seconds.

Result of the vote:

Aye: 6 Naye: 0 Abstain: 0

The motion was adopted.

Discussion on the possible direction of our activity

Frédéric D invited the members to agree on a date to have the discussion that Michael invited us to, on the usefulness of CAcert for telecom and IoT equipment manufacturers and vendors. It was decided that the date would be Wednesday 3 May, at 13:30 UTC.

2 Business

OpenID Connect (Brian / Frédéric D) FD explains some about the difficulties around completing projects in CAcert. Brian concurs, but is more positive, and has started working towards increasing his GO-skills. Michael says he too knows a little.

Remote Assurance (Brian / Étienne) No new contact taken.

Finance team (Michael / Étienne / Frédéric D) Michael says we will have to stop using Conotoxia as it isn't allowing him to do what he needs. This is linked to its inability to register CAcert as an officially and formally recorded structure with the Swiss administration. He will try to set up a new Paypal account in Europe in cooperation with Étienne (some time after 24 April). Reason is we can't add the Swiss bank account to the "Australian" Paypal account.

Frédéric D says that he received permission from Jan to deploy NextERP in a non-privileged LXD container, even though the target architecture on the CAcert infrastructure is based on LXC, without the use of LXD. Frédéric D explains that he had previously obliged himself to follow Jan's technical requirements to use LXC, and that this response allows him to find a workaround for the non-privileged LXC container malfunction on Debain 11 that he did not know how to fix by himself. He explains that he has made a list of the dependencies required to deploy ERPNext. He adds as a comment that like any other project, motivation is higher when you are at least in pairs to accomplish the task you have committed to.

SpringOffensive Etienne list 72 bugs that everyone could help out testing and reviewing!

OrgAssurance Etienne will try to reach out to the relevant people in other ways.

Background Check Kim suggests to offer to help Ted with BGCs, to make it easier to match dates for BGCs. We still have a problem for the BGC for Brian, as it is suggested that the extra person aside from Ted isn't another board member.

Events FOSDEM - loads of people! Michaels feels it's perhaps even too big.

Infrastructure (Dirk) Dirk not present.

Any other business

None

3 Question Time

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Closing

Chair (Brian) closes the meeting at 19:20 UTC.

Date of the next meeting

The next meeting will be held on Thursday May 4, 2023 at 18:00 UTC

Logfile

Logfile from meeting 2023-01-05

Motions

• https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20230413.1 (Support authority)

• https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20230413.2 (Minutes March)

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