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= Minutes of the MiniTOP on the 2012-01-10 =

== Setting ==
The MiniTOP will be held via telco  22:00 CET

Attendees: magu, michael, uli, marcus, dirk


== Topics ==

(skip to [[#AGENDA|agenda]])

Action items from last meeting '''[[Software/Assessment/ActionItems|Meeting Action Items]]''' 
<<Include(Software/Assessment/ActionItems)>> 




<<Anchor(AGENDA)>>
== Agenda ==

=== 1. bug#794 Display certs in admin console ===
 * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=794|bug#794]] display certs in admin console
  * passed within last week
  * precedent ruled, Support works on issues

=== 2. bug #985 - Move Translingo to Translations (incl. patches) ===
 1. Translingo [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=985|bug #985]]
  . [[https://translations.cacert.org]] ([[http://translations.cacert.org/]]) (replacement for translingo)
  . the translingo.cacert.org had been in operation far longer, so I think it is possible that some users migrated to translingo.cacert.org, without telling us.
  . I would suggest to mass-mail the email addresses of the translation-project leaders in the translingo database, to inform them, and to ask them to speak up if they still need it
  * last foreign uploads 2008 on about 13 + cacert projects
  * whohas translingo server console access?
   * mario
  * req for console access for michael to contact project leaders, Updates?
  * Transfer In, Transfer Out problems
  * Update from new deployment ?
  * opened for: create an account can now be started
  * Michael current state:
   * import and export routine works
   * script to incorporate updates needs fixed
  * next: complete language handling needs to be updated
  * accept lang handler needs fix
   * FF de, de_de
   * IE 6 de, 8,9 de_de
  * working session within last meeting: michael, marcus
   * infos from meeting 2011-10-18
    * pdf code needs rewrite (uni code library, move to external server (outsourcing))
    * message cert notification - uses perl code, text source not avail (get bind-text-domain)
  * current state?
  * Marcus sent mailing to translators, no response so far, no tests so far (week 3)
   * Morten NO
   * Emanuel IT
  * current state:
   * create test system accounts  dutch@test, espania@test and so on, let users do their tests
   * Magu, Marcus will give it a try
   * a couple of testers has started testing and reporting within the last 7 days
   * results: de, fr, en, pl, es, pl
  * last meeting: working session [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=985|bug#985]] translingo transfer
   * Michael: needs 2nd review
  * Translations
   * problems that relates to blocks translations
   * changes into translations database
   * contact NEO to transfer manualy to testserver
   * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=985|bug #985]] needs 2nd review, so update script can run also on critical system
  * trying to assign to Ted, reviewed by Ted
   {{{
Did a review. I cannot judge locale/Makefile, the other changes are acceptable.
I guess before a patch can be created a rebase will be necessary... 
}}}
  * comment by NEO
   {{{
OK, I have made a merge from release into that branch and removed the conflicts
(a rebase would break fast forwarding). 
}}}
  * What is the impact? What is needed for going to production?

=== 3. Patches queue ===

  1. bug #827 - New Points calculation / Thawte patch
   . [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|bug #827]]
   * bug#827 + bug#882 to merge
    * close bug#882
    * wot.inc.php + notary.inc.php to merge
    * continue with bug#827
    * pojam bug to fix

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=540|bug#540]] No key usage attribute in cacert org certs anymore?
   * also: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=905|bug#905]]
   * Policy group discussion - Extended key usage -> [[PolicyDecisions#p20111113|p20111113]], motion CARRIED
   * deployment
    1. prepare fixes -> Michael to prepare diffs, against svn
    1. sending to testserver
    1. transfer to critical system
   * (2011-12-13) approx 2 weeks to write the fix, approx 2 months to go
   * Michael did transfer the patch to testserver
    * signer code update
    * changes against svn
    * uli, to add to tester portal, done
    * uli to inform testers about new tests
    * test report from kenneth to transfer to report (email from 2011-12-25)
     * Michael: where to find the report from kenneth? link?
    * who has adobe 8 for testing?
   * next: needs testing (week 2)

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1002|bug#1002]] 0001002: Contact Assurer form leaves a funny comment after sending 
   * Michael did transfer the patch to testserver
   * Michael: request to alex to check, seems to be ok
   * next: needs testing (week 2)

  1. Marcus: working session [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=789|bug#789]] OA field extension
   * magu to test

  1. Marcus: working session [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=859|bug#859]] Activity on Account
   * Michael: needs 1st review + transfer to testserver
   * NEO: will check the next days

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=440|bug#440]] Problem with subjectAltName (CSR, renew certs)
   * "There seems to be a problem with the subjectAltName. Dupes, missing entries, and more"
   * patch by gagern
   * Software-Assessors: needs 1st review + transfer to testserver

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=978|bug #978]] bug 978 (weak keys) (bug 918)
   * invalid key format, no regular error message, something wrong, error code # identified
   * debugging infos from user + infos from critical team with error code #, was spkac routine
   * one test done 2011-12-17 by JensK

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=920|bug #920]] Join - single name only (eg Indonesian)
   * details under bug number
   * presented to Policy Group
   * first results from policy group?
    * dirk has made some changes in 6.php last year
    * there are 4 possible choices:
     1. givenname
     1. lastname (as current fix)
     1. givenname or lastname
     1. brians proposal, mononym + checkbox
    * dirks proposal:
     * make name handling more AP conform (1 line names, multiple names)
    * 2 possible paths:
     1. allow multiple names (dirks proposal) is massive change (long term change)
     1. "simple" solution (short term change)
    * global re-design
     * eg users view
     * 43.php, multiple views


=== 4. Michaels workqueue ===
  1. OCSP server - timeout 10 min too short, 3 days to long, recommendation is 24-48 hours max, verisign: 7 days, startssl: 2d
   * who has been informed, contacted?
   * Michael will inform Wytze
   * not yet written
    * thread relates to [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board/2011-11/msg00021.html]]
   * general solved
   * scalability might be a problem in the future ?!?
   * preconfigured there is no solution
   * whats with EBJCA
    * java based
    * distribution solution (database replication), master server distributes to other criticial slaves, no caching function
    * post request includes timestamp, simple http cache probably doesn't work
    * engineX ?
   * ocsp protocol: version, requestor-name, extension, request-list
   * open issue, needs time for implementation
   * studienarbeit? bachelor arbeit?
   * new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1001|bug #1001]] Need a way to set up redundant OCSP responders

  1. Build + Document Emergency Patches Path
   || Build + Document Emergency Patches Path || Andreas, Uli, Wytze || {0} ||
   * [[Software/Assessment/Documentation/EmergencyPatches]]
   * Documentation written, reviewed by Wytze, Marcus
   * Michael: reminder for review [[Software/Assessment/Documentation/EmergencyPatches]]
   * other reviews done ?

  1. New function to TMS - edit notary table record
   * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=980|bug #980]]
   * infos from last meeting
   * testers needs editing individual notary records: fields "method", "awarded", "points"
   * easier to create notary records with testserver (add F2F), and edit existing record, doesn't need to check for assurer-from, assuree-to and so on
   * Update?
   * Michael (2011-11-15): after some other bug reviews
   * TMS - certs expire handling
    * for testserver eg 3 days (short), 31 days (long)

=== 5. Dirks workqueue - The List of open / running / unhandled bugs ===
  1. review bug #794
   * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=794|bug#794]] display certs in admin console
   * see top 1, done by Ted

  1. review bug #985
   * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=985|bug #985]] Move Translingo to Translations (incl. patches)
   * see top 2, done by Ted

  1. VBscript for Vista/Win7 (select keysize >= 1024) (BlackJack) - '''reminder''' to dirk
   || x^1^ Dirk, new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]<<BR>>DEV: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918 (Part II)]] ([[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]]) Weak keys: /pages/account/..  4.php, 17.php  to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) '''DEV''' || current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver<<BR>>Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed<<BR>>some references added to [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] || {0} ||
   * as part of
   * x^1^ Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] Weak keys [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug #918]] / [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=954|bug #954]] / [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]
   * Current state:
    || {g} || pre mailing sent ||
    || {g} || keys revocation script to bulk revoke weak keys, new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=954|bug #954]], finished ||
    || {-} || dirk: DEV: [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918]] Weak keys: /pages/account/..  4.php, 17.php  to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) '''DEV''' <<BR>>vbscript needs to be improved with select box key size and lower limit to 2048 (based on [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:MD5and1024]])<<BR>>Api CertEnroll (MS crypto provider)<<BR>>new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]<<BR>>current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver<<BR>>Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed<<BR>>some references added to [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] - codename "BlackJack" ||
    || {g} || Weak keys blog post, published ||
    || {g} || Weak keys article published by Hanno(July 28), link is in CAcert's blog post (July 30) ||
    || {b} || weak keys: problems with cryptostick (to test at [[events/FrOSCon2011|Froscon]] with Juergen ?) ||

   * cert enroll infos under [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]
   * vista and win7 works with other engine !CryptoAPI (?) => Cryptography API: Next Generation
    * [[http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa833130%28v=VS.85%29.aspx]]
    * Marcus: added notes for Win7 [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964#c2249]]
   * dirk: has not started the virtual machine
   * Question from Marcus: did someone contacted illuminat?
    * No, Marcus: to contact illuminat
    * illuminat will give it a try, first needs download of testserver image
   * Update?
    * marcus: illuminat not yet seen last time
    * baseline requirement - keyssize >= 2048 to fix till end of 2011
    * how to proceed?
    * dirk:  1st step, to bring win test server localy online
    * marcus: to contact illuminat
    * Do we have other developers who may pick up this project?
   * Marcus -> dirk: announcement of vbscript bug to developers mailing list
    * change keysize
    * merge 2 scripts to one
    * fix on script 1 needs fix in 2nd script too, solutions: include, one file, or comment fix script 2 too
   * interrupt: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] -> codename "BlackJack"
    * relates to IE8 problem, that certs cannot be created
    * is there a security issue with available fix? also [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918]]
    * related 927, 901, 847
    * a patch is online on testserver, but cannot found
    * related patch files, /pages/account/ 3,4,16,17; /include/account.php
    * there are other vbscript pages: ../account/ 6 + 19
   * Brian [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]
    * Michael: Marcus to test with IE
    * IE select provider only
   * code from Brian needs some corrections, corrections to do, 4 + 17 inclusions, checkin
    * notification to Brian, done
    * quickfix has problems too
    * next step(s)
     * check error codes / debug routines
     * open developer mode, create cert
      * resulting error: line 213, put length, wrong parameter
      {{{
Zeile: 213
Fehler: CertEnroll::CX509PrivateKey::put_Length: Falscher Parameter. 0x80070057 (WIN32: 87)
Zeile 213:  objPrivateKey.Length = &h08000000
}}}



=== 6. General Bugs List Overview ===
  1. Bugs to Review #1, transfer to testserver - Currently '''5'''
   || uli || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=977|bug #977]] admin console text fix || admin console Sysadmin - find domain - lists 2 tables - one for user accounts, one for org accounts, naming issue || {0} ||
   || uli || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=967|bug #967]] OA isassurer check || Give an OA the oppertuntiy to check if a desiginated Organisation Admininistrator is a CAcert assurer || {0} ||
   || uli || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=859|bug #859]] admin console interface || feature request: show activity on an account in the admin interface, new update /!\ || {0} ||
   || inopiae || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=981|bug #981]] OA overview (dupe of [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=943|bug #943]]) || New layout of view for Organisation Administraors in account/id35 || {0} ||
   || gagern || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=440|bug#440]] Problem with subjectAltName (CSR, renew certs) || There seems to be a problem with the subjectAltName. Dupes, missing entries, and more || {0} ||


  1. Bugs under testing: - Currently '''4'''
   || uli || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=855|bug #855]] admin console interface "unknown" + "empty" assurance method fields, needed for correct testing on testserver || admin console lists "empty" and "Unknown" assurance types on listing given Assurances || {0} ||
   || Michael || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=978|bug #978]] bug 978 (weak keys) (bug 918) || invalid key format, no regular error message, something wrong, error code # identified<<BR>>debugging infos from user + infos from critical team with error code # <<BR>>was spkac routine || {0} ||
   || Michael || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=540|bug #540]] || p20111113 CPS #7.1.2 "Certificate Extensions" adjustments - testing || {0} ||
   || Michael || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1002|bug #1002]] || 0001002: Contact Assurer form leaves a funny comment after sending  || {0} ||


  1. Needs 2nd review + transfer to Critical team, to bundle, to deploy - Currently '''2'''
   * define priority eg. 10,2, and so on, proposed order: from 1 to 10

   || 7 || uli, ted || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=789|bug #789]] OA edit domain fix || Editing domain for organisations does not work<<BR>>new update 2011-09-26<<BR>>more fixes, more testing<<BR>> * testcase scenario<<BR>> * open org, edit 1st domain in new window, edit 2nd domain in new window<<BR>> * results in: change made in window 2, written to record in window 2<<BR>> * needs cross checking || {0} || ? / u7 / m7||
   || 2 || neo || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=985|bug #985]] move translingo to translations || check language settings under testserver || {0} || 2 ||


  1. Needs development, deployment, discussion, reminder
   1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=835|bug #835]] Migrate CATS onto testserver
    || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=835|bug #835]] Assurer challenge (on testserver) || asssigned to Ted, CATS to install on ca-mgr1, awaiting deployment || {0} ||
   2. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]], [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918 (Part II)]] Codename "BlackJack"
    || Brian || new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]<<BR>>DEV: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918 (Part II)]] ([[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]]) Weak keys: /pages/account/..  4.php, 17.php  to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) '''DEV''' || some references added to [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]<<BR>>current state: first review, add to testserver || {0} ||


=== 7. Long term projects ===
  1. strategy plans ... next: strategy for "New Roots & Escrow"
   1. idea: using indirect crl's ?
    * 2 crl's needed, one valid, one invalid crl server
    * more infos available ? who ?
     1. build testserver with special certs
     1. Magu, Michael to send instructions for test deployment
      * indirect CRL: RFC 5280 [[http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5280]] (chapter 5)
    * meetings ago we've defined Testing requirements and a potential testszenario
    * to remind every meeting
    * Michael: testserver environment deployment
    * Michael will review after Certs extension policy group vote
     * Michael: VM + OS builtup for CRL server tests (WIP)
   1. policy group: define requirements
    * multimember escrow method ?
     * needs risk analyze
     * potential candidates ?
      * Marcus to contacted Benedikt, will contact Thomas K
      * Next step(s)

  1. CI (Update)
   1. [[http://live.eclipse.org/node/1031|description to eclipse testpage]], [[http://adobedev.adobe.acrobat.com/p4101brizwr/|Webinar]]
    * deployment scenario:
     1. create testusers
     1. testing
     1. delete testusers
    * regression test for standard tests: eg 0,1,49,50,51,99,100,101 pts w/ and w/o CATS passed
    * reminder
   1. Jubula Test-Tool (by Michael) - update?
    * [[http://www.eclipse.org/jubula/download.php]]
    * instructions see under [[Software/Assessment/20110830-S-A-MiniTOP#Minutes|Minutes meeting 2011-08-30]]
    * test deployment needs to be continued by software testers
    * Jubula documentation started: [[Software/Jubula]]
   1. new proposal by Sven: Webdriver with Maven and Jenkins-CI
    1. Jubula vs. Webdriver
    1. testserver variants
     1. testserver for manual tests
     1. testserver of OS and application upgrades
     1. testserver for CI  
    1. test methods
     1. unit test
      * test single modules, exceptions
     1. integration tests
      * test interaction of modules
     1. system tests
      * complete system test, with database interactions, module interactions and much more
    1. sven did some work regarding frontendtest (Webdriver with Maven and Jenkins-CI)
     * Michael did some review: probably needs some seperation

  1. Infrastructure seperation
   1. CAcert Inc statement - received
   1. Hosting/Housing Provider
    * 2011-12-01: Vienna response
    * questions answered
   1. contacting secure-u, oophaga started?
    * Frank, Mario, Ted, Uli, Sebastian ?
    * Secure-u started 2011-12-19, awaiting response
   1. Hardware
    * alternate solutions
     * offer Frank a) 80 w, too high, b) unknown yet
     * uli: luxemburg connection, will try 1st week in january
    * 2 way path: search sponsors for money, search hardware sponsors

  1. Helping CAcert
   * How does recruitment work?
   * Newsletters, recuring notifications
   * Fosdem -> focus on Nucleus events
   * Recruitment on events?
   * Recruitment page  eg [[events/Recruitment]], [[HelpingCAcert]], Jobs
   * Flyers?
   * re-design main page:
    * dirk: 3 news, upcoming events
    * michael: *
    * rss-feed script modification is simple
    * main page cms page, login to secure area (portal project)
     * public:  www.cacert.org
      * secure1: www.cacert.org
      * secure2: secure.cacert.org

  1. Discovery II [[Arbitrations/a20110118.1|a20110118.1]] discussion
   * still running
   * who should receive infos? list of appropiate recipients listed in discovery II table
   * possible software solutions:
    a. triggered info mailing eg board-private mailing list + support
    a. view page with current results (like hidden stats page?)
   * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1003|bug#1003]] Provide a possibility to regularly review the permissions in the system


  1. Affilates program - topic for SA ?
   * currently not
   * planned income projects by CAcert Inc
   * new portal (Benedikt, Karsten working on it)
    * critical / non-critical systems
     * non-critical portal - with login link to critical secure.cacert.org
     * cms system: own user base?
     * critical system userid includes @, cms userid does not include @
     * cms login adding userid from critical system may result in security leak that account data can be collected (MITM)
   * affiliate link to each event (template)
    1. addtl. link under main ads

  1. CAP Form redesign for upcoming events
   * Fosdem
   * Cebit
   * Chemnitzer Linuxtag
   * CAP forms have no bank account infos
    * CAP form redesign

  1. "NEO projects"
   1. architecture/design (aka Birdshack design)
   1. signer rewrite
    * cabforum, blacklist implementation
    * needs a rewrite, protocol isn't that reliable as required/needed
    * problems in current design: eg count of days a cert expires will be transfered from client to server
    * multiple servers (staging/scaling/load balancing)
    * problems in current design: eg OpenSSL and multithreading

  1. Vendor-Api / New Assurers Portal
   * Marcus sent some proposals
   * A team is working on a Portal project (Carsten, Marcus)


=== 8. next meeting ===
 * Tuesday, January 17, 2012 22:00


== Minutes ==

 1. Build + Document Emergency Patches Path
  || Build + Document Emergency Patches Path || Andreas, Uli, Wytze || {0} ||
  * [[Software/Assessment/Documentation/EmergencyPatches]]
  * Documentation written, reviewed by Wytze, Marcus
  * Michael: reminder for review [[Software/Assessment/Documentation/EmergencyPatches]]
  * seems to be ok, emergancy path through SA will work, is prepared by the Update cycle design
  * remote access needs experiences

 1. Code signing
  * white paper from verisign, Magu will send around

 1. bug#794 Display certs in admin console
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=794|bug#794]] display certs in admin console
   * passed within last week
   * precedent ruled, Support works on issues under [[Support/Handbook/PrecedentCases/a20111128.3|a20111128.3]]

 1. bug #985 - Move Translingo to Translations (incl. patches)
  * Translingo [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=985|bug #985]]
   . [[https://translations.cacert.org]] ([[http://translations.cacert.org/]]) (replacement for translingo)
   . the translingo.cacert.org had been in operation far longer, so I think it is possible that some users migrated to translingo.cacert.org, without telling us.
   . I would suggest to mass-mail the email addresses of the translation-project leaders in the translingo database, to inform them, and to ask them to speak up if they still need it
  * last foreign uploads 2008 on about 13 + cacert projects
  * whohas translingo server console access?
   * mario
  * req for console access for michael to contact project leaders, Updates?
  * Transfer In, Transfer Out problems
  * Update from new deployment ?
  * opened for: create an account can now be started
  * Michael current state:
   * import and export routine works
   * script to incorporate updates needs fixed
  * next: complete language handling needs to be updated
  * accept lang handler needs fix
   * FF de, de_de
   * IE 6 de, 8,9 de_de
  * working session within last meeting: michael, marcus
   * infos from meeting 2011-10-18
    * pdf code needs rewrite (uni code library, move to external server (outsourcing))
    * message cert notification - uses perl code, text source not avail (get bind-text-domain)
  * current state?
  * Marcus sent mailing to translators, no response so far, no tests so far (week 3)
   * Morten NO
   * Emanuel IT
  * current state:
   * create test system accounts  dutch@test, espania@test and so on, let users do their tests
   * Magu, Marcus will give it a try
   * a couple of testers has started testing and reporting within the last 7 days
   * results: de, fr, en, pl, es, pl
  * last meeting: working session [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=985|bug#985]] translingo transfer
   * Michael: needs 2nd review
  * Translations
   * problems that relates to blocks translations
   * changes into translations database
   * contact NEO to transfer manualy to testserver
   * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=985|bug #985]] needs 2nd review, so update script can run also on critical system
  * trying to assign to Ted, reviewed by Ted
   {{{
Did a review. I cannot judge locale/Makefile, the other changes are acceptable.
I guess before a patch can be created a rebase will be necessary... 
}}}
  * comment by NEO
   {{{
OK, I have made a merge from release into that branch and removed the conflicts
(a rebase would break fast forwarding). 
}}}
  * What is the impact? What is needed for going to production?
   * git potential problem solved, can be transfered to critical
  * Sync between translation server and critical system
   * make update, make upload to be started by critical admin on production console
   * po tool should send warning/errors, critical admin has to check on update
   * critical admins needs ssh key, to contact NEO
   * docu: new translations to add under system docu webdb

 1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=540|bug#540]] No key usage attribute in cacert org certs anymore?
  * also: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=905|bug#905]]
  * Policy group discussion - Extended key usage -> [[PolicyDecisions#p20111113|p20111113]], motion CARRIED
  * deployment
   1. prepare fixes -> Michael to prepare diffs, against svn
   1. sending to testserver
   1. transfer to critical system
  * (2011-12-13) approx 2 weeks to write the fix, approx 2 months to go
  * Michael did transfer the patch to testserver
   * signer code update
   * changes against svn
   * uli, to add to tester portal, done
   * uli to inform testers about new tests
   * test report from kenneth to transfer to report (email from 2011-12-25)
    * Michael: where to find the report from kenneth? link?
    * NEO has added the report (written to private dl)
   * who has adobe 8 for testing?
    * magu has, please test
   * next: needs testing (week 2)

 1. Bugs to test
  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1002|bug#1002]] 0001002: Contact Assurer form leaves a funny comment after sending 
  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=789|bug#789]] OA field extension

 1. Bugs to transfer to testserver
  1. Marcus: working session [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=859|bug#859]] Activity on Account
   * Michael: needs 1st review + transfer to testserver
   * NEO: will check the next days

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=440|bug#440]] Problem with subjectAltName (CSR, renew certs)
   * "There seems to be a problem with the subjectAltName. Dupes, missing entries, and more"
   * patch by gagern
   * Software-Assessors: needs 1st review + transfer to testserver

 1. VBscript for Vista/Win7 (select keysize >= 1024) (BlackJack) - '''reminder''' to dirk
  || x^1^ Dirk, new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]<<BR>>DEV: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918 (Part II)]] ([[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]]) Weak keys: /pages/account/..  4.php, 17.php  to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) '''DEV''' || current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver<<BR>>Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed<<BR>>some references added to [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] || {0} ||
   * still open

  1. CI (Update)
   1. [[http://live.eclipse.org/node/1031|description to eclipse testpage]], [[http://adobedev.adobe.acrobat.com/p4101brizwr/|Webinar]]
   1. Jubula Test-Tool (by Michael) - update?
    * test deployment needs to be continued by software testers
    * Jubula documentation started: [[Software/Jubula]]
    * not performant as needed over internet
   1. new proposal by Sven: Webdriver with Maven and Jenkins-CI
    1. sven did some work regarding frontendtest (Webdriver with Maven and Jenkins-CI) (Jenkins aka Hudson)
     * Michael did some review: probably needs some seperation
     * [[https://github.com/Weltraumschaf/cacert-frontendtests|raw source]]
     * [[https://github.com/Weltraumschaf/cacert-frontendtests/blob/master/src/test/java/org/cacert/frontendtests/LoginTest.java|one implemented test case]]
      * needs building a team, sven + 2 others, to be forced and pushed forward
      * active people have to work with this framework
       a. write a testunit that triggers the bug
       a. write a bugfix
       a. start regression test

 1. Infrastructure seperation
  1. Hardware
   * alternate solutions
    * offer Frank a) 80 w, too high, b) unknown yet
    * b) IBM eServer xSeries 335 (Model-Type 8676-61X) => pentium4
    * doesn't fit power consumption
    * uli: luxemburg connection, will try 1st week in january
   * 2 way path: search sponsors for money, search hardware sponsors
   * level after netburst
   * sample TK config: 1626.90€ + 117.30€ (1750)
    * includes: Intel Xeon 4-Core E3-1260L 2,4GHz 8MB 5GT/s, 16 GB ECC DDR3 1333-RAM, 4x 500 GB SATA II WD Raid 
   * fund rising project

 1. financial resources raises ...
  * audit discussion
   a. Audit over RA
   a. Audit over CA

 1. Vendor-Api / New Assurers Portal
  * Marcus sent some proposals
  * A team is working on a Portal project (Carsten, Marcus)



==== Fixed Action Items since last or within meeting ====

 || uli, ted<<BR>>michael || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=794|bug #794]] || visibility over certificates for sysadm in account administration, new update 2011-09-24<<BR>>3 tests, needs 2nd review, deploy<<BR>>updated 2011-12-06, tested<<BR>>needs 2nd review || 1 {g} ||
 || Michael || [[Software/Assessment/Documentation/EmergencyPatches]] || Build + Document Emergency Patches Path, reminder for review || {g} ||


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