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= Minutes of the MiniTOP on the 2011-06-14 =

== Setting ==
The MiniTOP will be held via telco
 * Workshop starts  21:00 CEST (Weak keys [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug #918]] testing workshop)
 * Meeting starts   22:00 CEST

Attendees:

== Topics ==

(skip to agenda)

new items in last meeting:
 * modify/split: Michael, Dirk, Uli - prepare patches, update wiki and other sources with new class3 fingerprint
  1. webdb
   * /pages/index/3.php and 16.php to fix, also to add link to [[Roots/StateOverview|Roots/StateOverview]]
   * see [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=946|Bug #946]]
   * capnew.php and coapnew.php to modify, removal project defered
  1. wiki updates
  1. svn updates
 * Marcus: flyer update: no label, but 1/3 page of A4 page printout, to cut in 3 pieces to insert in each flyer (fixed within meeting)
 * capnew.php doesn't work on cacert1.it-sls.de, pdf error message, added [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=950|Bug #950]] (fixed within meeting)
 * Alex, Michael, Dirk, Ted, Uli, Critical Team: Proposed Class3 Subroot Re-sign project Rollout Date: Thursday 2011-06-09 or Friday 2011-06-10
 * modify: All - Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] Weak keys, workshop session before next weeks meeting, starting 21:00 UTC
 * Michael, Dirk, Ted: the [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=948|Bug #948]] impact on mail delivery (non RFC-2821 compliance)

 * Action items from last meeting '''[[Software/Assessment/ActionItems|Meeting Action Items]]'''

== Agenda ==
 * strategy plans ...
  1. strategy for: "Certificates Class3" problem
   * Debriefing
    * Patches and handling
    * Press release preparation and distribution
    * Timing
    * Rollout coordination
    * Documentation
  1. next: strategy for "New Roots & Escrow"
   * ...
 * State Testserver Update, Current Patches on Testserver, current running Arbitrations:
  * the list of unhandled patches
   * Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] Weak keys [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug #918]]
   * Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110419.1|a20110419.1]] [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|Bug #637]]: Weak Passwords
   * "Thawte" patch [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] Points-Count-Order-Change project
   * Software Assessors Review 1
    || Michael, Dirk, Ted, Mawa || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=940|bug #940]] (outsource help pages to wiki) ||
    || Michael, Dirk, Ted, Mawa || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=943|bug #943]] (replace OA-admin text with  OA-Assurer) ||
    || Michael, Dirk, Ted, Mawa || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=841|bug #841]] (cert login - check issuer source) ||
    || Dirk, Michael, Mawa || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=942|bug#942]] (CATS test) ||
    || Dirk || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|bug#827]] (Thawte patches, points order change) ||
   * Software Assessors Review 2
    || Dirk, Ted, Mawa || the [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=948|Bug #948]] (impact on mail delivery (non RFC-2821 compliance)) ||
 * Testgroup: recruit new testers, update
  * Software Testers - Workshop at Barcamp Karlsruhe ?
 * CI app.test (Update)
 * next meeting: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 22:00

== Minutes ==

=== Workshop Weak Keys ===

Attendees: Marcus, Michael, Uli, dirk

Weak keys testing

first test round is to disable patch on testserver to allow weak keys to add

 1. generate 512 bit keys test (test [[http://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918#c2034|bug #918 note #2034]])
  a.  openssl genrsa -out <your-server-name-domain.tld>.key 512
  a.  openssl req -new -key <your-server-name-domain.tld>.key -out <your-server-name-domain.tld>.csr
  a.  copy + paste to signing request
  a.  copy + paste signed pub key <your-server-name-domain.tld>-pub.key
  a.  test new pub key:  openssl x509 -text -in <your-server-name-domain.tld>-pub.key -noout
   * should result in:
    * Subject Public Key Info:
     * Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
      * RSA Public Key: (512 bit)
       * Modulus (512 bit):  ...
       * Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
 2. generate exponent 3 key test (test [[http://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918#c2036|bug #918 note #2036]])
  a. openssl genrsa -aes256 -out <your-server-name-domain.tld>.key -3 1024
  a. openssl req -new -key <your-server-name-domain.tld>.key -out <your-server-name-domain.tld>.csr
  a.  copy + paste to signing request
  a.  copy + paste signed pub key <your-server-name-domain.tld>-pub.key
  a.  test new pub key:  openssl x509 -text -in <your-server-name-domain.tld>-pub.key -noout
   * should result in:
    * Subject Public Key Info:
     * Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
      * RSA Public Key: (1024 bit)
       * Modulus (1024 bit): ...
       * Exponent: 3 (0x3)
 3. OA server keys test

=== Meeting [22:35] ===

Attendees: Michael, Uli, dirk, mario, magu

 * strategy plans ...
  1. strategy for: "Certificates Class3" problem
   * Debriefing
    * Patches and handling
    * Press release preparation and distribution
     * Michael: has distros received notifications ?
    * Timing
    * Rollout coordination
    * Documentation, 
    * dispute has been filed regarding notifications to Orgs, but not yet picked up
    * no infos from Support yet
    * some accounts under twitter - who ?  magu ( .. 21 followers), dirk (cacert_me 63 followers) ...
    * mailing lists: debian 12.6.,  http://www.elgonzo.net/index.php/tag/cacert/,  http://osdir.com/ml/general/2011-06/msg20283.html, https://www.xing.com/net/sicherheit/feedback-biete-suche-tools-events-288/fwd-pressemitteilung-neue-signaturen-fur-cacert-class-3-subroot-zertifikat-anderungen-fur-nutzer-von-cacert-zertifikaten-37158796/
    * reminder to heise ?
    * linux community - posted
  1. next: strategy for "New Roots & Escrow"
   * idea: using indirect crl's ?
    * 2 crl's needed, one valid, one invalid crl server
   * policy group: define requirements
    * multimember escrow method ?
    * how does debian work ?
     * secret sharing schema
     * docu process [[http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html]]
     * public mailing lists ? contacts ?
     * dirk ? michael ? jandd ? alexander ? sven ? and other contacts (ftp team ?)
    * dnssec has distributed last year
 * State Testserver Update, Current Patches on Testserver, current running Arbitrations:
  * Michael added new states in mantis
  * the list of unhandled patches
   * Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] Weak keys [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug #918]]
    * test running
   * Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110419.1|a20110419.1]] [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|Bug #637]]: Weak Passwords
    * needs rework
   * "Thawte" patch [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] Points-Count-Order-Change project
    * problems with network setup ... fixed within session, 15.php package uploaded
   * Software Assessors Review 1
    || Michael, Dirk, Ted, Mawa || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=940|bug #940]] (outsource help pages to wiki) ||
    || Michael, Dirk, Ted, Mawa || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=943|bug #943]] (replace OA-admin text with  OA-Assurer) ||
    || Michael, Dirk, Ted, Mawa || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=841|bug #841]] (cert login - check issuer source) ||
    || Dirk, Michael, Mawa || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=942|bug#942]] (CATS test) ||
    || Dirk || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|bug#827]] (Thawte patches, points order change) ||
   * Software Assessors Review 2
    || Dirk, Michael, Mawa || the [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=948|Bug #948]] (impact on mail delivery (non RFC-2821 compliance)) ||
 * Testgroup: recruit new testers, update
  * Software Testers - Workshop at Barcamp Karlsruhe ?
  * Idea: push patches to production for testing
   * testing with deadline (eg 2 weeks?), after which patch will be pushed to production
 * annoying [[http://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=911|bug #911]] (gpg expires 1970)
  * gpg on testserver not active
  * pickup upcoming weekend (dirk, michael, uli)
 * CI app.test (Update)
  * Hudson, integrated in eclipse
  * silenium good for creating
   * upcomung new release announced, old revision not under full maintenance eg ff4 not supported
 * next meeting: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 22:00
 * git over http: [[http://git-cacert.it-sls.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi]]
 * Testserver + Software Testers - task based help:
  * '''Emails will not be send to your email address, use testserver management system instead'''
  * how to create admin account?
  * how to add new user?
  * how to assure an account?
  * where to find email?

==== Fixed Action Items since last Meeting ====

 || Michael, Dirk, Ted, Uli || prepare patches, update wiki and other sources with new class3 fingerprint<<BR>>1. (Dirk, Ted) webdb: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=946|Bug #946]] '''REVIEW 2'''<<BR>>2. (Uli) wiki updates<<BR>>3. (Uli) svn updates || {g} <<BR>> {g} <<BR>> {g} <<BR>> {g} ||
 || Alex, Michael, Dirk, Ted, Uli, Critical Team || Proposed Class3 Subroot Re-sign project Rollout Date: Thursday 2011-06-09 or Friday 2011-06-10 || {g} ||
 || Marcus || flyer update: no label, but 1/3 page of A4 page printout, to cut in 3 pieces to insert in each flyer (fixed within meeting) || {g} ||
 || Dirk, Michael || capnew.php doesn't work on cacert1.it-sls.de, pdf error message, added [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=950|Bug #950]] (fixed within meeting) || {g} ||
 || All, Testers || Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] Weak keys, reviewed by Ted, needs testing !!! Urgent<<BR>>workshop session before next weeks meeting, starting 21:00 UTC [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|Bug #918]] '''TESTING''' || {g} ||


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==== Action Items New ====

 1. dirk ? michael ? jandd ? alexander ? sven ? - next strategy for "New Roots & Escrow" - get in contact with debian group
 1. dirk, michael, uli - annoying [[http://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=911|bug #911]] (gpg expires 1970), activate gpg on testserver ? pickup upcoming weekend ?
 1. uli, marcus - Testserver + Software Testers - task based help


Action items: '''[[Software/Assessment/ActionItems|Meeting Action Items]]'''
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