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= Committee Meeting 2013-06-23 =

The meeting will take place at [[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Board+Meeting&iso=20130623T09|09:00 UTC]] in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Committee Members: feel free to add a business within the acceptance period or your question to the board below. Others:  add a question to the questions section.

== Premeeting ==

 1. Minutes author prepares [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/20130616#Minutes|the minutes from the last meeting]]
 1. Minutes author prepares the [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/ActionItems|action items]]. '''All action owners''' to update.
 1. Minutes author puts [[https://community.cacert.org/board/motions.php?motion=m20130616.4|motion m20130616.4]] to accept the minutes

== Agenda ==
 1. Preliminaries
  1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
  1. Accept [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/20130616#Minutes|the minutes from the last meeting]].
  1. Who is making minutes?
  1. Chair asks whether [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private|cacert-board-private]] maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.
  1. Chair asks whether [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board|cacert-board]] maillist includes any business items that aren't on the agenda yet.
  1. Chair introduces the URL of [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/ActionItems|action items]] to the meeting, and asks for discussion.
 1. Businesses
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  1. '''Oophaga closing down''' (ongoing)
  1. '''New Roots & Escrow project''' (recurring agenda topic until decision reached)
   . references see [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/20130310|meeting 2013-03-10 top 2.5]]
   . and https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board/2013-06/msg00000.html
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    . Additional Inputs ''Comment: Replace "Additional Inputs"by Description of Business, Description of Reason-Why/Purpose, Additional Comments, Additional Documents, Additional Links, if useful for other Committee Members to prepare for Committee Meeting.'' 
  . et cetera
 1. Question Time
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  1. Question One added by Your Name ''Comment: Replace "Question One" by Your Question and add your Name''
   . et cetera
 1. Closing
  1. Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting
  1. Chair closes the Committee Meeting

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== Minutes ==

=== 1 Preliminaries ===

==== 1.1 Opening ====

Present: Michael, Peter, Tomáš, Werner

Meeting chaired by Werner. 

==== 1.2 Minutes from last meeting ====

Minutes accepted by motion [[https://community.cacert.org/board/motions.php?motion=m20130616.4|m20130616.4]].

==== 1.3 Minutes taker ====

Minutes will be taken by Werner.

==== 1.4 Disclosure of private communication ====

Nothing to disclose, some discussion about reasons.

==== 1.5 Potential business items on cacert-board ====

No new business.

==== 1.6 Action items ====

No discussion.

=== 2 Business ===

==== 2.1 Oophaga closing down ====

Nothing new. The MoU waits for singning by the boards of CAcert and secure-u!.

==== 2.2 New Roots & Escrow project ====

The references in the proposal are related to the "New Roots Task Force" Requirements https://wiki.cacert.org/Roots/EscrowAndRecovery#Requirements. We took the general and the policy based criteria into concern. The audit based criteria are obsolete since the DRC is no longer applicable: https://wiki.cacert.org/Roots/EscrowAndRecovery#Discussion.

Disaster Recovery planning suggests we need to be able to issue CRLs within 24 hours. But we might have a problem to fulfil z.7. when a bank is closed on weekends. A dedicated CRL cert is planned but not yet there. For the record: http://openssl.6102.n7.nabble.com/Offline-Root-CA-and-CRL-generation-td44324.html.

At the moment everybody is mostly happy with this vault-based escrow method, but some essential details must be resolved. 

Recommendation from risk assessment: the risk of a compromised bank (a bank does not know what is in their vaults) in a political stable country is lower than the risk of loss of the key by a group of humans (each of them can loose the key and compromise the security of the CA). But there concerns arose how secure is a vault against a malicious bank clerk. The discussion came to no solution. Deferred to next meeting.

=== 3 Questions ===

No questions.

=== 4 Closing ===

Next meeting will take place on Sunday 2013-07-07 09:00 UTC.

=== Motions ===

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